南斯拉夫的死亡

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原名:The Death of Yugoslavia又名:南斯拉夫之死

分类:纪录片 / 历史 /  英国  1995 

简介: 色彩:彩色

更新时间:2017-11-18

南斯拉夫的死亡影评:the best and the worst

确实是关于南斯拉夫解体和战争的最好纪录片。观看提醒:BBC预设的立场,即米洛克维奇是罪魁祸首,煽动塞尔维亚人的民族情绪;二是字幕问题,这是IMDB上的评论,认为翻译非常不准确,有曲解之嫌。

The format is to be blame . We see tedious talking head interviews from everybody like Slobodan Milosovic the leader of Serbia and Franjo Tudjman the leader of Croatia to leaders of the various paramilitary leaders organisations to UN soldiers to people who were kicked out their villages during the war . The irony comes in the form of Tudjman or Milisovic saying he had nothing to do with such and such an event then the interviewing cutting to a paramilitary leader saying " So the president said to me I want [ Rival ethnic group ] kicked out of the region and I will supply you with the men and guns to do it " and the interview cutting back to Milosovic or Tudjman bleating " So you see it was nothing to do with me . I was not responsible " . By trying to be ironic , if not out and out cynical , what are we audience to learn by all this ? Since the paramilitaries are very nasty people in the first place why should we entirely believe them ?
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I don't won't to waste my life by talking about politics, so my comment will be quite short and precise. The thing is that this movie is made by one side in the conflict. Which one? Of course, UK and USA. Therefor it cannot be objective in any way. In every country of Former Yugoslavia there is a opinion that there is at least 50 % of guilt for wars in Yugoslavia that could be blamed on foreign countries and their secret services, Germany and USA in particular. Also, Death and sufferings of civilians were used so many times in propaganda purposes by USA gov. The most flagrant use of media in those purposes is demonstrated in the movie that deals with making up the war in Albania ( I think that Al Pacino has a role of American president, but I'm not sure). Anyways, I am trying to be objective and pretty liberal, so, I am not putting myself in either side of the conflicts, although I come from Serbia. Nice greets to everyone!
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Whoever translated the Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian portions of this program into English ought to be ashamed of themselves. There are so many instances where the meaning of the speakers' words is obscured or distorted. Here are just a few examples:

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Speaker: "They simply could not believe their eyes, how it could all have been filmed in the offices in which they were conferring…not conferring, in which they were talking about the heinous crimes that they want to commit."

Subtitles: "They could not believe their eyes! They had been filmed planning murder and treason."

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Speaker: "They have an ethnically pure republic, they have no territorial disputes."

Subtitles: "It was an ethnically pure republic - no Serbs."

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Speaker: "I asked him if they are aware that they chose war."

Subtitles: "I said: 'This means war'."

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Speaker: "Until then, I never in my life saw a man who was as scared as him. I think that in a period of 30 minutes, he went to the toilet 10 times. Most likely he got, uh, diarrhea or something similar."

Subtitles: "I have never seen a man so scared. He went to the toilet ten times. Perhaps it was something he had for lunch."

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Such shoddy translation might be acceptable for a Hollywood action film, but it completely ruined what could have been an excellent war documentary.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283181/reviews?ref_=tt_urv

Episode 3
米洛克维奇指望黑山留在联盟里,结果以前仰仗的小弟叛变了,原因是意大利允诺给黑山总统一个经济援助计划,和进入欧盟的计划。
克罗地亚失去三分之一领土,50万人流离失所。UN进驻。

Episode 4 The Gates of Hell
探究米洛克维奇的战争罪问题。
Bosnia
三分之一是serbs,和穆斯林群体和克罗地亚族发生冲突,公投,独立。
导火索:婚礼上,一位塞族父亲被杀。
Serbia and Croatia ends with the signing of an agreement
Radovan Karadžić
On 24 March 2016, he was found guilty of genocide in Srebrenica, war crimes and crimes against humanity, 10 of the 11 charges in total, and sentenced to 40 years' imprisonment.
米洛克维奇
“there is no one who can believe that there was organised genocide even organised by me.”
海牙法庭证明米洛克维奇无罪。

Episode 5 A safe area
The Srebrenica massacre
genocide[8] of more than 8,000[1][9] Muslim Bosniaks, mainly men and boy
Mladić was accused by the ICTY of being responsible for the Siege of Sarajevo (5 April 1992 to 29 February 1996) and the Srebrenica massacre.
对米洛克维奇好感增加,原来他不是个战争疯子,在OWEN提案提出的时候,是坚决主张签订的。但是波斯尼亚的塞族领导人,反对签订,丧失了最后的和平机会。
克罗地亚也派入军队,保护波斯尼亚境内的克罗地亚人。发现克罗地亚人设立的集中营。
美国干涉。要求克罗地亚退出。和波斯尼亚签订合约。
NATO干涉。俄罗斯入局。派入部队进驻萨拉热窝,让NATO空袭变为不可能。
UN无能,屠杀。空袭开始。

Episode 6
克罗地亚屠杀塞族人。the serbs have only themselves to blame. 克罗地亚总统说。
北约空袭。
波斯尼亚塞族放下武器,开始和谈。米洛克维奇作为中间人, Karadžić和Mladić 和美国代表和谈,空袭结束。新一轮塞族难民进入塞尔维亚和黑山。
波斯尼亚总统,继续进攻,而克罗地亚不再同伙。美国要求波斯尼亚停火。
Bosnia and Serbia到美国,和谈。Bosnia被分为两个state。

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