秋日奏鸣曲

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原名:Höstsonaten又名:秋天奏鸣曲 / 秋光奏鸣曲 / Autumn Sonata

分类:剧情 / 家庭 /  瑞典   1978 

简介: 夏洛特(英格丽·褒曼)是某乐团杰出的钢琴演奏员,她的女儿伊娃(丽芙·乌尔曼)是一

更新时间:2007-08-12

秋日奏鸣曲影评:台词回顾

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He wasn't afraid of dying.

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Outside the hospital
they were drilling and hammering.

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The sun was blazing down
and there were no awnings.

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We tried to get another room but
many wards were closed for repairs.

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Towards evening the noise stopped
and I could open the window.

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The heat outside was like a wall,
and not a breath of wind.
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A few days before
you were due home

I'd get a temperature
from the excitement.

I'd worry I might
really get sick,

because you were
afraid of sick people.

When you did come,
I was so happy

I couldn't say anything.
You'd get impatient and say,

"Eva doesn't seem very pleased
to have her mother home again. "

I'd blush red as a beet
and break out in a sweat.

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I couldn't say anything,
I had no words.

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You had taken charge
of all the words in our home.

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-You're exaggerating.
-I must finish speaking.

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I know I'm tipsy but otherwise
I wouldn't have said what I have.

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When I don't dare say any more
because I'm ashamed

you can explain and
I'll listen and understand

just as I've always done.

I loved you, Mama, it was
a matter of life and death.

But I distrusted your words.
一定要说出来
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Why do I feel like
I have a temperature?

Why do I want to cry?

I'm to be put to shame,
that's the idea.

Then a guilty conscience.
Always a guilty conscience!
1:03 把人最细密的情感呈现
我们都来至一滴水,但是不一样的管道
人生而不平等
我原来爱你,现在不爱了,难道我一定要受到谴责吗?
:“很难得看见一株不错的,却不知道是不是最好的,因为只可以摘一株,只好放弃,再往前走看看有没有更好的。到

发现已经走到尽头时,才发觉手上一株麦穗也没有……”
这时,苏格拉底告诉他:“这就是爱情!
:“因为只可以取一棵,好不容易看见一棵看似不错的,又发觉时间、体力已经快不够用了,也不管是不是最好的,所

以就拿回来了。。。”
这时,苏格拉底告诉他:“这就是婚姻!”
爱情没有道理必须是永恒的,人们期许它永恒,爱情具有即发性
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不能脱离现实,所谓现实生活的艺术,
不是活在自我所标榜的单身中,people surely needs friends.
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I've thought so all along.
All this hatred!

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Why have you never said anything?
-Because you never listen.

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You're a goddamn escapist.
You're emotionally crippled.

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In actual fact
you detest me and Helena.

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You're shut up inside yourself

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and always stand in your own light.
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I was little and malleable and loving.
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You bound me because you wanted my love

just as you want everyone else's love.

I was utterly at your mercy.

It was all done
in the name of love.

You kept saying you loved me
and Papa and Helena.

And you were an expert at love's
intonations and gestures.

People like you are a menace.

You should be locked away
and rendered harmless.
现实感
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Leonardo once said that...

how did he put it now...

"A sense of reality
is a matter of talent.

" Most people lack that talent
and maybe it's just as well."

Do you know what he meant?
-Yes, I do.
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There are no excuses.

There is only one truth
and one lie.

There can be no forgiveness.

-You can't blame me entirely.
-You expect an exception for you.

You've set up a sort of
discount system with life

but one day you'll see that
your agreement is one-sided.

You'll see you're harboring a
guilt,just like everyone else.

What guilt?
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导演:英格玛 伯格曼

英格丽 褒曼

利夫 乌尔曼

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有时我站在那里
看着我的妻子

而她却不知道我在场.

她第一次进这个房间时说,

"哦,真不错.
感觉象到了家一样. "

当时我们相识还不久.

我们是在特隆海姆的一次主教会议上相遇的.

她当时是作为记者到场.

我和她提及那里的牧师住宅区.

我大胆地提议

会议结束后同去.

途中我向她求婚.

她未置可否,但是
我们走进房间时她说,

"哦,真不错.
感觉象到了家一样."

从此我们在牧师住宅区里
过着宁静快乐的生活.

伊娃当然也告诉过我她以前的事.
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"一个人必须学会生活.
我每天练习.
" 我最大的障碍就是
我不知道我是谁.
"我在黑暗中摸索.
"如果有人爱上现在的我
"我也许才敢终于正视自己.
" 对于我,那种可能性
微乎其微."

我只想告诉她一次
她被全心全意地爱着
但我却无法找到恰当的方式来表达
让她可以相信我.
我找不到合适的词语.
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Sometimes I stand
looking at my wife
without her knowing I'm here.
The first time she
entered that room she said,
"Oh, how nice.
I feel at home here. "
We hadn't known
each other long.
We met at a bishops'
conference In Trondheim.
She was there as a journalist.
I told her about
the parsonage out here.
I ventured to suggest a visit
when the conference was over.
On the way, I asked
her to marry me.
She didn't answer, but when
we entered the room she said,
"Oh, how nice.
I feel at home here. "
Since then we've lived a quiet,
happy Iife at the parsonage.
Eva has, of course, told me
about her earlier life.

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This is the first of her books.
I like it so much.
She has written,
"One must learn to live.
I practice every day.
" My biggest obstacle is
I don't know who I am.
"I grope blindly.
"If anyone loves me as I am
"I may dare at last
to look at myself.
" For me, that possibility
is fairly remote."
I'd like to tell her just for once
that she is loved
whole-heartedly
but I can't say it
in such a way
that she'd believe me.
I can't find the right words.
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A writer whose name
I've forgotten said,

" It's like a ghost
falling on top of you

"when you open the door
to the nursery

"having long since forgotten
it is the nursery."

-Do you think I'm grown up?
-I guess being grown up is being able

to handle your dreams
and hopes. Not longing.

Do you think so?


Maybe you stop being surprised.

How sensible you look,
with your old pipe.

-You're quite grown up.
-I wonder. I'm surprised every day.

-At what?
-At you.

And I have the most
unreasonable dreams and hopes.
And a longing too, come to that.

-Longing?
-Yes. I long for you.

Those are very pretty words.

Words that don't
mean anything real.

I was brought up
with beautiful words.

Mama is never furious
or disappointed or unhappy
she is "pained". You have
a lot of words like that too.

It's a kind of
occupational disease.

If you long for me
when I'm here,

I begin to be suspicious.妻子
-You know what I mean.

No. If I knew, it would
never enter your head to say so.
如果我在身边你还对我有渴望,

我倒要起疑心了.
-你知道我的意思.

不. 我要是知道, 你就不会这么说了.
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我不会说没有意义,你我心里已经明了的话
Ingrid Bergman reacted with such shock on a first reading of the Autumn Sonata screenplay, in which the

director described her character as a self-centered concert pianist who had neglected her children in

favor of her profession. After initial clashes during the rehearsal period, however, she buckled down to

her task, sensing perhaps a parallel with her own life, when she had abandoned her family in America in

order to pursue a bohemian life with Italian director Roberto Rossellini in the late 1940s. Her

performance as Charlotte, the mother, exudes such candor and pain that by the end of Autumn Sonata, we

find our sympathies oscillating uncertainly between her and Eva, her daughter (played by Liv Ullmann).

Music performs a compelling role in this magnificent film. Chopin抯 Prelude no. 2 in A Minor, played

first by Eva, then by Charlotte, communicates the purity and clarity of Bergman抯 own vision梒ontaining

such a controlled filigree of pain. Later, a Bach cello suite underscores a moment of sadness in the

early life of Helena.

Sven Nykvist抯 glowing color photography provides the film with a visual warmth and intensity denied to

some of Bergman抯 older black-and-white voyages through the soul, while the underrated actor Halvar Bj鰎k

contributes an intriguing portrayal of Viktor, Eva抯 husband.

The film takes the form of a sonata itself, with the resounding central movement filled with sound and

fury worthy of Beethoven, as Eva and Charlotte spend a long night releasing their pride and prejudice,

their bitterness and regret. By morning, their fury quenched, each has arrived at a degree of tolerance,

and at a recognition of the common bonds that tie one to the other. Bergman once said, 揥e go away from

our parents in youth and then we gradually come back to them; and in that moment, we have grown up.?

Autumn Sonata is the consummate illustration of that thought.
Impossibly pretty, the film is shot by Sven Nykvist in autumnal hues and impressionistic lighting with

flashbacks that look more like animated paintings than mere sets. Bergman’s technical brilliance is

subdued here, allowing his actors and script to leave the biggest impressions. If the humble Autumn

Sonata ultimately lacks the sheer power of Bergman’s similarly constrained Cries and Whispers or

Persona, it is only because its admirable earthiness needn’t resort to the former’s transcendent leaps

into the supernatural and the latter’s narrative explosions.
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Your technique wasn't at all bad
though you might have taken
more interest
in Cortot's fingering.
But let's just talk
about the conception.
Chopin was emotional,
but not mawkish.
Feeling is very far
from sentimentality.
The prelude tells
of pain, not reverie.
You have to be calm,
clear and harsh.
Take the first bars now.
It hurts, but
he doesn't show it.
Then a short relief.
But it evaporates at once,
and the pain is the same.
Total restraint the whole time.
Chopin was proud, passionate,
tormented and very manly.
He wasn't a mawkish old woman.
This prelude must be
made to sound almost ugly.
It is never ingratiating.
It should sound wrong.
You have to battle your way
through it and emerge triumphant.
Like this.

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